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I'm finding the newest Predators movie bizarre, as the formulaic genre pick-them-off is more than a teensy bit hilarious, (really, you just pulled out his entire spine with bonus! attached skull, okay then, and your leader wears a plastic goth-lego helmet with gold teeth on it, uh-huh), yet slathered with genuine moments of spookiness. Not what I was expecting.



p.s.
The Social Network aka the facebook movie:
1. I had no idea I'm only two degrees away from Mark Zuckerberg.
2. WTF is up with that freakishly shallow portrayal of women!! For reals, people. Sad!

p.p.s.
Yes, this is my literacy level at 4 a.m. I have a detailed and complex reduction of the various issues, but not the wherewithal to care enough to shove myself into the wakeful mental state required to properly unpack and spell them all out. Not that there's anything wrong with "reals", because there isn't. At all.

p.p.p.s.
I mean, seriously, fail! It didn't even, at bare minimum, pass the Bechdel Test.

p.p.p.p.s.
Beautifully shot though. Breathtaking. Truly masters of the craft. Fingers crossed that such movies will put an end to the loathesome blue/orange oversat nightmare that's cursed this decade.


EDIT: Aaron Sorkin explais the misogyny.

Date: 2010-10-08 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themythicalman.livejournal.com
"It didn't even, at bare minimum, pass the Bechdel Test."

http://thehathorlegacy.com/why-film-schools-teach-screenwriters-not-to-pass-the-bechdel-test/

Ah, Alison Bechdel. How I used to *love* reading DTWOF when I was in University, proof that the '80s weren't all bad. I'm kind of surprised, but very grateful that her collections of comic strips ever made it into my hands in rural Manitoba.

Date: 2010-10-08 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
It's not just that, though. Women were portrayed almost entirely a commodity, bussed in, in bulk, for pleasure,. The one girlfriend in the movie, the caught prize, was a hot asian psychopath, who punished the man for settling down. The girl at the beginning of the movie was the only real person, and she was an unobtainable myth who only existed to give the main character a wistful, once lost, never found, pedestal complex.

Date: 2010-10-12 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themythicalman.livejournal.com
Hearing this, I'm a wee bit surprised Katherine Monk gave this movie 5/5 stars.

Date: 2010-10-08 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com


Tom is my friend on Myspace, Tom hates Mark with a burning passion; two degrees!

Date: 2010-10-08 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
My friend Jordan, who taught me how to ski, co-founded Napster with Sean Parker, who was the president of Facebook until the cocaine bust.

Date: 2010-10-08 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
DTWOF is such a treasure! (My mouse pad features Ginger and Mo and Vanessa and Virginia!)

I apply a modified Bechdel test to films for my own demo:

Film stars two (or more) gay men who talk to each other about something other than fashion/hair.

That rules out tokenism, mostly, and gives me something to look forward to when I go to a film. It is a short list, and I'll see all sorts of other things, but I'm THRILLED when a movie passes the "More Than Just Fabulous" test.

I think Brokeback was the last one I saw that was "mainstream."

Date: 2010-10-08 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momiji12.livejournal.com
I hardcore like this MTJF test

Date: 2010-10-08 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
Yes! And it perpetually bothers me that almost every movie, action or otherwise, involves following a heterosexual couple as they meet, bond, and survive.

Date: 2010-10-08 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saeble.livejournal.com
you forget how fundamentally shallow most people are, regardless of gender

facebook is a very shallow place full of shallow interactions

Date: 2010-10-08 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jason0x21.livejournal.com
Predators made me think that Predator had better character development.

Date: 2010-10-11 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
I thought the character shortcut of only having cliche characters was almost nice, given that it's a movie about shooting aliens, and time spent on character dev is time not spent on ACTIONTIME!

the social network writer response

Date: 2010-10-12 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i haven't seen the movie, but saw this and thought of your comment...
http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2010/10/aaron-sorkin-responds-to-commenter-in.html

Re: the social network writer response

Date: 2010-10-12 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
That's close to what I suspected was his intent. Thank you very much for posting that to me!

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