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King Kong didn't have enough Adrien Brody, dinosaur punching or kicking ass for the lord to excuse the length, let alone the blatant racism.

It started out with a Al "blackface" Jolson singing I'm On Top Of The World, then moved onto an island, populated only by the darkest natives that special effects money could possibly buy, where all the ethnic characters conveniently died in less then ten minutes. I was amazed. Also, could she possibly scream a little more? I don't think there was quite enough. Please, take yourself more seriously, because audiences don't like 100 million dollars movies about giant apes that aren't burdened with poignant scenes of ice-skating with toy women.

Date: 2005-12-19 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daki.livejournal.com
I still like what Uncle Warren said about this movie:

For $200 Million, you can make a real giant ape!

Date: 2005-12-20 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
Was it really TWO hundred million?

Oi. Isn't that more than we could put people on the moon for?

Date: 2005-12-20 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daki.livejournal.com
Yep, $200M.

I think any country outside of the US could put someone on the moon for $200M. Here? We spend $30M to build a pen that works in zero-G instead of using a pencil.

Date: 2005-12-20 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
That's it. I gotta find out how to be a pen designer.

Date: 2005-12-20 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daki.livejournal.com
Bomb a small country that makes pens. Set up shop and accept government contracts to "rebuild". Then turn those contracts into the official NASA Pen Designer contract. Make millions.

Date: 2005-12-20 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michel-lacombe.livejournal.com
Germany, for example.

Date: 2005-12-20 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrogant-gamer.livejournal.com
Hi

Also, that ape was unrealisticaly large. Hey, why didn`t they use the world trade center in this remake? I thought that added a really modrn feel to the last remake. Oh, and why did they remake this again? Oh, and what are you doing in a hollywood movie screening expecting naught but the mainstream anyway?

z.

Date: 2005-12-20 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
Ach on you. Even going in knowing it's going to be mainstream, I expected maybe a bit more imaginatoin, you know? There were momenets of utter promise, like the swinging on vines bit, that was gold.

Date: 2005-12-24 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrogant-gamer.livejournal.com
Hi

Yeah, hollywood films are full of great momenets. That`s because the easiest way to cheat someone into thinking they saw a great movie is to fill it with great momenets: take The Matrix. Great movie (hint: I love bad).

z.

Date: 2005-12-20 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Also, could she possibly scream a little more?

Wasn't that her job?

Date: 2005-12-20 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
My mother used to tell me that I shoudl be an actress because I would make a great Fay Wray.

Date: 2005-12-20 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
Last night I was supposed to finish that series, and I ended up sleeping through the very last episode. *hangs head in shame*

Date: 2005-12-20 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
YOU HAVE BROUGHT DISGRACE UPON THIS HOUSE

*ahem*

Be sure to check out the movie, too. Higher production values, some excellent fights. It takes place just before the last episodes of the series so everyone's still there.

Date: 2005-12-24 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrogant-gamer.livejournal.com
Hi

Damnit woman! If you finish that series, then I`ll probably have to watch it from the beginning again some day.

z.

Date: 2005-12-20 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naekkae.livejournal.com
tilda swinton is my hero.

Date: 2005-12-20 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
That woman, I swear, she's not flesh and bone as much as she is art.

Date: 2005-12-20 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hundun.livejournal.com
I would reccomend using a trained gorilla and a stuffed gorilla puppet together with miniatures and a little CG to modify expression and so on but... ... hire me? I make your movie better.

Date: 2005-12-20 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
My movie would be unlikely to have a giant gorilla, though I'll keep it in mind. Really.

One more reason

Date: 2005-12-20 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As if you need one, here's one more reason not to go see King Kong
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5491683,00.html

Date: 2005-12-21 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] givemesodapop.livejournal.com
I went and saw it. It wasn't that bad.

Date: 2005-12-21 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
You haven't seen the previous two.

Date: 2006-05-01 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
much worse re: the racism in the film was kong himself: an enormous, black subhuman with violent tendencies, an obsession with blondes, but deepdown! a heart of gold (awwww). I mean, it isn't birth of a nation, but holycrap the condescension!

I found this entry via a google search for ed from cowboy bebop.

Date: 2006-05-01 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
That describes the original Kong as well though. We can't help that gorillas are black, right? There's only so much we can complain about when we knew we were walking into a movie about a giant woman-stealing ape.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
this is true, I'm probably just hypersensitized. it just felt like kong epitomized so much of what middle america sees as terrifying in black men.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
I am continually glad that I live in Canada. Also, that I don't tend to see many Hollywood films. I was tired of the cliche's before I went to L.A. Now I'm tired of the people who live them.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
I am continually sad I don't. mmm socialized health care, gay rights and awesome webcomic cartoonists.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
*grins* Hey, if you need a couch...

Date: 2006-05-01 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
I'll remember that next time an election here goes badly

Date: 2006-05-01 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
It's occured to me that perhaps we should be glad that the current administration screwed up with Katrina so badly, because this way there will BE another election.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
:sigh: c'est vrais, c'est vrais

Date: 2006-05-01 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
I want to be a teacher. unsure of grade level/subject as of yet.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
That's admirable. Going to reverse the current decline? It's looking terrifying from up here, and I think OUR system's crap.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
the system itself here is a large part of the problem. so many well intentioned teachers just end up becoming cogs, churning out more, well, americans.

option 2: buy a boat. find some groovy people. go west until we're in international waters. declare ourselves a traveling autonomous zone.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
I'm not sure how the system there works. I'm baffled by anything that could let evolution slide.

Re: option II. I've got access to a boat. Berths only 8 though, so I'm not sure how well it would work for defragmenting children.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
8 is enough to comandeer a larger oceangoing craft. we could defrag all the childers in there, when the need arises.

alternatively, we could use one of BC's many small uninhabited islands to set up a port for ourselves.

Date: 2006-05-01 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
True, though it's a wee bit chilly here. Wouldn't it be much more exciting to set up in the Phillipines?

Date: 2006-05-01 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
ooo! I like the way you pirate!

Date: 2006-05-01 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
I have been promised that when my friends get their evil island HQ, I get to be in charge of human resources. I will have a clipboard and a cat-suit.

Date: 2006-05-01 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
that's basically the awesomest thing I've ever heard.

sigh. because of this conversation, my gmail is now given me context ads about defragging software and the new pirates movie..

Date: 2006-05-01 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
I remember when Gmail came out and suddenly everyone decided it was Teh Bestest Thang Ever, Dude! and I pointed out how annoying it would be to have spiders crawling through correspondances all the time and no one believed me.

Date: 2006-05-01 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
indeed. At one point, I was really confused, because whenever my then-partner emailed me, the ads would be for rene magritte prints, my favorite painter. later, I figured out it was because her signature line was "ceci n'est pas un pipe." I was basically spooked.

Date: 2006-05-01 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjomensch.livejournal.com
fyi, I'm driving up to the bay area now, plausibly the best thing about america. as such, I won't be able to fire back the mega-quick response for which I am famous.

Date: 2006-05-01 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porphyre.livejournal.com
I haven't been to the Bay Area in many years and I was only there briefly. I rather regret that I havent' managed ot find my way there again. It seemed so beautiful.

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